UAC confirmation support

[Winfij]

I searched then forums and found some posts from several months ago stating a fix for keeping mobile mouse working when a UAC confirmation popup is on screen was under investigation.

Has there been any progress, or an eta?

Currently, when I'm managing my htpc and the popup occurs, I have to go plug a USB mouse in and sit on the floor in front of the pc to clear it, defeating the whole point of buying this tool.

Cheers,

John

[1marcus4]

Just wanted to confirm others have this issue as well. Purchased the app yesterday. LOVE IT! However, when I hit the UAC message, the pointer from the Air Mouse app ceases to work. Any ideas anyone? Is this being worked on?

Mark

[MobileMouseAdmin]

We are working on the issue and hope to have a solution in an upcoming release. It's not an easy fix, Microsoft designed the UAC specifically to prohibit applications from being able to control the computer while the UAC window is open, but did not provide an easy way to facilitate legitimate applications from doing so. Stay tuned!

[CewiPlay]

UAC can probably be fixed by signing your own drivers. sign drivers using MS windows SDK

this site explains how... http://www.minasi.com/newsletters/nws0903.htm
scroll down to - Solving 64-Bit Windows' "I Only Want Signed Drivers!" Tantrums
You can also read the MS windows document on the procedure. Test signing drivers etc is free - No MS Fee!

This will allow you to sign the drivers yourself for only Apps you want to allow past the UAC
only drawback is it shows test mode in the bottom right of your screen, big deal!

[MobileMouseAdmin]

We already sign our software, which is one of many things that needs to be done to be able to use the app when the UAC is showing. Unfortunately there are a ton of other steps involved too. We are working hard on this and hope to release it soon.


UAC can probably be fixed by signing your own drivers. sign drivers using MS windows SDK

this site explains how... http://www.minasi.com/newsletters/nws0903.htm
scroll down to - Solving 64-Bit Windows' "I Only Want Signed Drivers!" Tantrums
You can also read the MS windows document on the procedure. Test signing drivers etc is free - No MS Fee!

This will allow you to sign the drivers yourself for only Apps you want to allow past the UAC
only drawback is it shows test mode in the bottom right of your screen, big deal!

[CewiPlay]

The pop UAC is from other software people are running that needs to be signed which is the problem... it is the User who needs to sign other software as not to get the popups on thier machine... not your software (air Mouse) !!

[juddadredd]

Tried it and it doesnt work... I dont think your going to get this anytime soon unless someone wants to help[ the devs out by supplying code... its ok to say oh its this or that but they need something to work with to get things fixed...

[MobileMouseAdmin]

The popup will come up whether a program is signed or not, it's based on whether the program requires admin privileges. Regardless, the problem is on our end, but requires a pretty significant overhaul of our software to get working. We have been working on it for quite some time and hope to have it out in the near future.


The pop UAC is from other software people are running that needs to be signed which is the problem... it is the User who needs to sign other software as not to get the popups on thier machine... not your software (air Mouse) !!

[CewiPlay]

Hmmm, ok I see.... I dont have that problem as i run admin except for unsigned, which used to pop up for me. :)

[chas]

Hello, I just purchased mobile mouse pro mainly for use in my home theater system. The only problem I've encountered so far is this issue with the UAC dialog boxes causing mobile mouse to stop working. I know you said you've been working on this problem and I just was wondering, since there hasn't been any update on this thread recently, how it's going and if there is any sort of ETA yet as to when this issue would be resolved.

Thanks and nice work on the app!

[juddadredd]

As per other posts on the subject Sorry not in the foreseeable future... sorry to be brief but I've only got 10 minutes to answer peoples questions today...

[apiercy]

Another request to get the UAC working. Also, if you could make it so logging on (ctrl+alt+del like for a domain) works that would be rad.

[juddadredd]

MY OWN VIEWS AND NOT THE DEVS...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/23/hackers-disguise-phone-as-keyboard-use-it-to-attack-pcs-via-usb/

So to bypass the UAC you will need to jail break your iPhone, Apple WILL NOT allow MM to be sold in the iTunes App store if they put that in... END OF STORY... so what your asking the devs to do is cut their own throats by trying to include it, remember this is their living we are talking about...

This is also why UAC is important and is why MM won't be able to pull off getting you to bypass the built in Windows security to add your login details... The Devs should MAN UP for once and put the subject to bed once and for all, instead of saying to people we are working on it, perhaps in the future...

[MobileMouseAdmin]

It doesn't require jailbreaking to do. This specific one does because they are using USB and having the phone act as a physical HID, which gets around the UID since it's essentially a real keyboard. It is possible to make our server work with the UAC, we have gotten it to partially work, it's just very difficult and we're not going to release anything anytime soon until it works flawlessly.



MY OWN VIEWS AND NOT THE DEVS...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/23/hackers-disguise-phone-as-keyboard-use-it-to-attack-pcs-via-usb/

So to bypass the UAC you will need to jail break your iPhone, Apple WILL NOT allow MM to be sold in the iTunes App store if they put that in... END OF STORY... so what your asking the devs to do is cut their own throats by trying to include it, remember this is their living we are talking about...

This is also why UAC is important and is why MM won't be able to pull off getting you to bypass the built in Windows security to add your login details... The Devs should MAN UP for once and put the subject to bed once and for all, instead of saying to people we are working on it, perhaps in the future...

[juddadredd]

So let me get this straight just for the RECORD, you have beaten the security routines in the Windows Vista,XP and Windows 7 operating systems UAC and have already cleared it with APPLE and MICROSOFT that its ok for your app to do that, and you're telling me that it's only written with the standard set of code libraries available to APPLE's IOS DEVELOPERS as supplied in the APPLE ORIGNAL IOS FIRMWARE...

I want you to say it here and now that that's what you have done... as otherwise I'm going to make some calls to some very interested people...


*** Update ***

Actually I just sent off a few emails instead... OFFICIAL STATEMENT TO COME:

[MobileMouseAdmin]

We have been working directly with Microsoft on this. There are ways to write programs that are able to interface with secure desktops like the UAC and Login screens. How do you think programs like LogMeIn and other remote access programs work when a UAC windows comes up?! They all use public APIs, but require code signing to insure they are not a virus or malware. It's only needed on Windows. Believe me we have researched the hell out of this. Stop being so dramatic...


So let me get this straight just for the RECORD, you have beaten the security routines in the Windows Vista,XP and Windows 7 operating systems UAC and have already cleared it with APPLE and MICROSOFT that its ok for your app to do that, and you're telling me that it's only written with the standard set of code libraries available to APPLE's IOS DEVELOPERS as supplied in the APPLE ORIGNAL IOS FIRMWARE...

I want you to say it here and now that that's what you have done... as otherwise I'm going to make some calls to some very interested people...


*** Update ***

Actually I just sent off a few emails instead... OFFICIAL STATEMENT TO COME:

[JimMims]

[Bump]
Thanks for the complete informative responses.
I too am interested in this feature and hope that it can be implimented.

Another another subject, I have a minor complaint. When I came to these forums, the security question requires me to be at the computer I had installed MM on. All well and good if you're still in the same location and have access to that computer! Would it be possible to make the questions more general in nature?

Oh, and good post, you're my hero. <g>

- Jim

[MobileMouseAdmin]

Every time we switch to more general questions we get flooded with SPAM. The server questions seem to be the only way to insure that people on this forum are actually using the software. I know it's a pain, but the forums would be a mess without it.


[Bump]
Thanks for the complete informative responses.
I too am interested in this feature and hope that it can be implimented.

Another another subject, I have a minor complaint. When I came to these forums, the security question requires me to be at the computer I had installed MM on. All well and good if you're still in the same location and have access to that computer! Would it be possible to make the questions more general in nature?

Oh, and good post, you're my hero. <g>

- Jim

[mdavej]

I've worked around the UAC issue by simply turning it off. But I'd prefer to leave it on. What's the latest status on this issue? If it can't be solved, I understand, but please tell us.

Thanks